Except that Soundtraxx lists a lot of CVs in the Sound Value doc that aren't supported. Several Google hits just took me to the Soundtraxx website, but nothing Bachmann specific. And if all else failed, I had a question regarding a Soundvalue decoder and it was answered with a call to Soundtraxx. You apparently haven't purchased much in the way of new locomotives or anything else technical such as computer software recently -- no one includes documentation anymore. Added new guide for Bachmann OO A4 Mallard, for installing DCC sound using a Zimo decoder - example and photos supplied by a customer. Bachmann HO ALCO RS-3 Sound Value™ Equipped Horn Selections: Leslie A125/A200 0 Nathan M3 1 Nathan M5 (Default) 2 Prime Mover: ALCO 244 1 Primary Address Control 03 2 V Start 12800 3 Baseline Acceleration Rate 12906 4 Baseline Braking Rate 05 5 V Max 00 6 193V Mid 00 7 194Manufacturer Version ID Read Only 8 Manufacturer ID 141 The boiler is a plastic casting mounted on a die-cast metal chassis. Adding a stay alive capacitor is relatively straight forward. Which is pretty important. You’re seeing this ad based on the product’s relevance to your search query. One time purchase of a larger screen and never print this stuff, just read it on the computer. In stock. 5 out of 5 stars Actually, I think the OP has a valid point. No horn or bell. manage your account online and more! Broadway Limited Paragon actually does supply a list of all in the small booklet size manual so have to give them credit. The major upgrade is the SoundTraxx Sound Value dual-mode decoder mounted in the tender. Stay Alive is strongly recommended on DCC Models with upto 8 secs life without power. It links directly to the Tsunami Technical Reference. (18) 18 product ratings - Bachmann 36-568A 6 Pin Loco Decoder DCC Chip Back EMF & Railcom: Suits N 36-568. Some have a start up and shut down auto sound function,but otherwise nearly all the brake ,air releases,pop valves,compressors ,radiator fans,7 ban EQ's and Reverb sound functions re missing. For instance, although the on line documentation refers to speed curve support, this apparently isn't actually available. There's a problem loading this menu right now. Die-cast chassis and E-Z Mate® Mark II couplers.. Decoder reset The values can be reset to the defaults as above by writing value 33 to CV 8. You did not look hard enough. Bachmann 2-8-4 Berkshire Steam Locomotive & Tender -- DCC Sound Value Equipped PERE MARQUETTE #1225 - HO Scale 4.5 out of 5 stars 16 $256.96 $ 256 . This model appears to be a re-release of the 2002 Spectrum model, reviewed in the April 2002 Model Railroader. 2,199 sold. And it's gotten rather trackless. An extra page on the Quick Start Guide would have been a big help! That's a good idea. I think most of us are fairly good at searching. ANd then there's the rest of us - my printer ran out of ink (well, actually, it all dried up due to non-use - I will NEVER buy an inkjet printer ever again) almost 2 years ago, and I haven't missed it. or Best Offer. Locomotive lights (where fitted) Your DCC equipment instructions will tell you how to turn the lights on and off – usually F0 (or F10 on EZ Command). I'm better off with having it online. Soundtraxx website makes no mention of the Sound Value decoders, and there is no search function. Dual motors Soundtraxx site is everything you could possible want to know about Tsunamis, and that's about all. CV settings for Branchline DCC Onboard steam locos using 36-553/36-554 decoder The Configuration Variable Defaults lists for Bachmann Sound Value decoders are not now completely accurate. Notice for the HO Bachmann Sound Value F7A and F7B models, Configuration Register, CV 29 value is 22, MR subscribers, check out the new All-Time Digital Archives, http://soundtraxx.com/factory/OEM_pages/bachmann/ho_fa2_sv.pdf, http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/20046, http://www.soundtraxx.com/factory/OEM_pages/bachmann/ho_gg1_sv.pdf, http://www.soundtraxx.com/factory/OEM_pages/bachmann/ho_f7a_sv.pdf, http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,28311.0.html, http://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/tsunami_diesel_technical_reference_0213.pdf. Perhaps one day the files will be updated. I recently purchased a Bachmann FA-1 and an FB unit with sound. The rear-mount speaker mounts in-place of the stock speaker. Free postage. I found the bell and horn were just turned down to 0 volume on the B unit FYI. They are not Tsumanis at all ,but only refere to the Soundtraxx Tsumani manual to save a buck so they do not have to make a actual manual for them and actually claim what they are and what they have functionally. Prime members enjoy FREE Delivery and exclusive access to music, movies, TV shows, original audio series, and Kindle books. Tsunami equipped Genesis includes a fairly detailed manual as well and does tell you how to program the ditch lights to flash with the horn button (F2). Finding info on the Bachman CV available values "for DCC Sound Value Equipment" is not as simple as you make it. This Quick Start Guide assumes that you Also, can anyone tell me if the Sound Value decoders that come in Bachmann diesels are basically Tsunamis, without some of the sounds. Even Bachmann has said at times, Tsunami decoder. I've just gotten used to going online for stuff like this. A steam-era freight hauler, the Baldwin 2-8-0 Consolidation, joins Bachmann’s Sound Value roster. Much of the model’s tooling is based on the Bachmann Spectrum-series 2-8-0 reviewed in the June 1998 Model Railroader.This new version comes factory-equipped with a Sound Value dual-mode decoder featuring sound technology by SoundTraxx. See, the key to modifying people's behavior (in this cas, waste less paper, saving tress, and all that flows from that) is to provide a more convenient alternative. 2014-07-08: Added new guide for Hornby OO 8F, for installing DCC sound using a Zimo decoder. Good luck with that. http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/images/Sound-Value-Decoder-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf. I had heard in this sub that Bachmann products aren't the best and it shows with this model in comparison to my Scaletrains SD40-2. That would be helpful. Starting in 2011, Bachmann Standard line locomotives come with an optional SoundTraxx Digital Sound Decoder that Bachmann refers to as a "Sound Value" option. That's my point. The full blown Tsunami does not support CVs 5 and 6, so I would be surprised that a Soundvalue would. Performs best on 18" radius curves or greater. For some, the sound value is a good solution. Sound Volume CV’s. $73.77. Nothing more. I have too. F No. HO Bachmann RS-3 IN Northern Pacific Livery, Bachmann w/Sound Value Decoder, factory installed. ANd since the most common format is the ubiquitous PDF format, I can transfer them to my tablet if I need a portable copy. How accurate a file is varies by model. The quick start guide says for more info go to either Bachmann or Soundtraxx websites. Olivias Trains > Sound Volume CV’s. All Sound Value decoders support CV 2, CV 5 and CV 6 as well as CV 66 through CV 95. My blog: http://modelrrmisc.blogspot.com/. mfg id 101 - Bachmann sound decoders / Soundtraxx Tsunami try setting cv 8 to value of 8 tsunami can only program short address on program track to identify a decoder as a Tsunami - function 3 , is short whistle ===== mfg id 11 - NCE . However, my point continues to be that a number of CVs -- and it's never been made clear which, anywhere -- on the Sound Value docs aren't supported. However, this latest release marks the first time Bachmann’s GS-4 has come factory- equipped with the firm’s Sound Value decoder. £1.95 postage. The speaker mounts in-place of the stock speaker in the fuel tank. If you look at the Tsunami diesel decoder manual starting around page 4 you'll see that it goes from CV 4 to CV 7: http://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/tsunami_diesel_technical_reference_0213.pdf  I understand that the new Soundtraxx motor-only decoders do support CVs 5 and 6, but that is a different animal. I have to agree with you regarding the printing of manuals. I enjoy reading how the experts say a couple more cents for more documentation. I was just programming a couple Athearn Genesis locos, and guess what. Also, I don't know what experimention you have done, but it would probably be helpful if you described that. The Sound Value decoder is NOT a decoder in the Tsunami family of decoders. I've seen reference to this in forums, and my own experiments seem to bear this out. The only thing that was programmable with ease was the road number. Accordingly it is a misnomer to refer to them as Tsunami decoder. Back when I was first getting in to DCC, I printed out various DIgitrax manuals as well as the various NMRA DCC standards and RPs, and other technical data. The Bachmann and SoundTraxx both have the CV list. Olivias Trains > Model Trains > Bachmann Diesel > Bachmann Class 08 / 09 We can fit a Loksound V5 Sound Decoder & Lighting to our Class 08’s bringing your Locos to life on your layout. More searching brings up another reference to the Sound Value CVs 5 and 6 issue -- looks like someone else recently found that these don't seem to work on Sound Value, but the documentation is at best inconsistent. £59.00. For me, the option is that or "Where did I put that CV list they gave me?" I've seen references on other forums, possibly the Bachmann, to the fact that the FA2 doc includes a reference to CV 132, air compressor volume, when trial and error by various users has shown that the Sound Value package does not include any air compressor sounds. (A few jokes and pokes.) I have a couple older Spectrum with onboard sound. Doubt the last will be an issue for Bachmann, but it's just a good idea to have a handy copy around. And if the accountant needs a justification to spend the penny on extra printing, the consumer is much more likely to keep a printed sheet or other product with such info AND a GREAT BIG LOGO within reach and in easy sight if needed than they are a box, etc,. While I typically do check mfg's websites for docs, updates and other product info, I agree with you that such basic info as the CV list should be included in the package. http://www.soundtraxx.com/factory/OEM_pages/bachmann/bachmann.php. I would suggest downloading all manufactures manuals, print out and put into clear page holders and into a notebook for future ease of use. Prototype. But it makes no mention of the Sound Value decoders, which I think are basically Tsunamis, but lacking some of the Tsunami features. Calling or e-mailing the supplier has inconsistent or unpredictable results. Anyway, thanks for the replies! Bachmann locomotive with digital sound installed. BNIB Bachmann 36-568A 6 Pin DCC Loco-Decoder with Back EMF Featuring Railcom. This state-of-the-art Digital Sound Decoder™ incorporates SoundTraxx Digital Sound Technology and will provide all the pleasures of high quality, digital onboard sound and the benefits of today’s DCC (Digital Command Control) technology. factory reset CV30 to value of 2 cv1= short address, default is 3 It would only cost them a penny or two to include the list of CVs in the package! Developed in conjunction with SoundTraxx, the decoder provides realistic sound effects on direct-current (DC) and Digital Command Control (DCC) layouts. This is a Rectify Series drop-in speaker system for Bachmann Soundvalue E7 locomotives. If you have special knowledge that tells you certain ones aren't supported even though they're listed, great, you can one-up lots of guys. 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PDF files have a search, so you can even find what you need without paging through it all. Eventually they do somewhat.Now the newest listings are corrupted with the same thing showing brake squeal and auto sound configuration for fans and compressors when both Soundtraxx and Bachmann know that these sound decoders do not have fans,compressors or brake squealing sounds onboard. But as I said, it would only cost them a penny or two to add a page to the user manual with the CVs. A question to the Bachmann forums where there are Bachmann reps is recommended. If you have references to where it has been found that these are not supported, it probably would be helpful to supply a link. Sound Equipped N Scale Steam DCC Equipped N Scale Steam Atlas N Scale Steam Athearn N Scale Steam Bachmann N Scale Steam Kato N Scale Steam Model Power N Scale Steam. Bachmanns website simply provides the Quick Start guide in PDF form. Sound Value decoders are short legged versions of Tsunami decoders that are missing some CVs indeed.And some of the CVs that are there are lacking some of the configuration posibilities true Tsunami decoders CVs have.Soundtraxx  program them to the loco manufacturer's (their customer here) requested parameters. I'm sorry there's no central exchange for this kind of thing, and those who want to shame the folks who are actually correct in pointing this out aren't doing anyone any favors. The Digital Sound Decoder that comes with your Bachmann model has many advanced throttle features as part of SoundTraxx’s Hyperdrive2™ Advanced Motor Control. I finally found what I was looking for, but it wasn't easy. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Bachmann Trains’ GP30 is now part of the Sound Value line of dual-mode Digital Command Control (DCC)-equipped locomotives. They will be different than the stock Tsunami decoders you buy and install yourself. No modifications are needed to replace the factory speaker. I've bookmarked the NMRA DCC Standards page, too, and Google takes me to pretty much everything else. If you want an even bigger, bolder sound, forgo the fuel-tank speaker and mount a UFIT-7240 speaker under the shell in the rear position and a UFIT-2120 just behind the cab. Add to Cart. Default Value. Installation into a. Bachmann Fn3 (G) External Frame Consolidation. Bachmann sound value sound decoders are great ,but with no manual and Soundtraxx publishing incorrect cv lists showing functions on them that they do not even have should raise eyebrows if not corrected. Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more. I am seeing about $100 to maybe $120 for a sound loco with a decent sound decoder. Not everyone has Internet access, or is computer savvy. I recently bought an HO Scale Bachmann DCC Sound Value GP38-2 because it was really on sale and I was looking for a 2 axle loco. This installation note assumes you have read the section on Wiring Specific Locomotives, the section on Sound, and the section DCC in the Garden.. DCC Ready??? Yes stripped down versions of the Tsunami. That is a little different than not supporting CVs 5 and 6. The link I sent tells you something about Sound Value. The Configuration Variable Defaults lists for Bachmann Sound Value decoders are not now completely accurate. Our first DCC sound-equipped N scale locomotive, the EMD DD40AX, includes our Sound Value SoundTraxx® diesel sound package with prototypical prime movers (dual-motor sound), 3 air horns, and bell–all in 16-bit polyphonic sound. This is a Rectify Series drop-in speaker system for Bachmann Soundvalue SD70ACe locomotives. Quantity: 1 Add to Bag. mfg id 101 - Bachmann tsunami reset select loco to 55, cv 55, value of 55 then rock loco to break contact and reset loco or try setting cv 8 to value of 8 tsunami can only program short address on program track to identify a decoder as a Tsunami - function 3 , is short whistle ===== mfg id 11 - NCE factory reset CV30 to value of 2 As for the Sound Value decoder, the above listed GP7 CV info indicates the BEMF CV10 is called "BEMF Cutout" and the default value is 0. I see the sound value line for the general modeler who is concerned with cost and would like sound. Some never think of asking there. Right from the Bachmann site. And you can always include notes for wuick reference ie:  light effect settings, function remapping, etc. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, With a large screen, the text can be far BIGGER than it appears on the printed page - even on not such a large screen, although it means more scrolling. Comparing an Athearn Genesis to a Bachmann Sound Value loco is apples and oranges. They both came with a Quick Start guide. However the Tsunami manual is over 70 pages if I recall. Look at the CV list. My iPad weighs a mere fraction of that HUGE thick 3-ring binder full of manuals, yet contains all f those documents plus tons of other newer ones plus many issues of magazines and many, many books. I hope to change the whistle selections on my 4 Bachmann Sound Value equipped 4-4-0's as well as activate the compressor sound, which is off by default. The most recent example of this is at http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/20046 -- the list of CVs in the GG1 doc at http://www.soundtraxx.com/factory/OEM_pages/bachmann/ho_gg1_sv.pdf lists variables like "exhaust volume control" that pretty clearly don't correspond to any Soundtraxx GG1 sounds, and the doc doesn't provide any clear answer to the poster's question as to whether the motor sounds are included or not. The Athearn Genesis locos come with a 22 page instructional manual, listing all the CVs, including the various sounds, the equalizer, etc, in a glossy color booklet. BACHMANN DCC SOUND DECODER v3.5 & SPEAKER - OO GAUGE CLASS 37 DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE. I already have that on paper. "-Albert Einstein. I finally found what I was looking for, but a lot of the links were dead ends at the "store" or general descriptions. While the body shell is largely unchanged, the mechanism has been revised, most recently to accommodate a SoundTraxx Sound Value dual-mode decoder … HO Bachmann S-4 Switcher in Northern Pacific Livery, Bachmann DCC w/Sound Value Decoder factory installed. Things like changeing the various sound volumes, speed matching, etc. It uses a Soundtraxx Bachmann Sound-Value Diesel decoder listed under JMRI 3.8 as a Throttle-Up (SoundTraxx_Bachmann_SndVal_Dsl.xml) The decoder is mounted on top of the metal cast body; speaker is an 1/2 inch size and mounted at the bottom of the fuel tank. 96 $328.99 $328.99 Both Bachmann and SoundTraxx are aware of this. The Sound Value decoder is NOT a decoder in the Tsunami family of decoders. Bachmann 57901, HO Baldwin 2-8-0 Consolidation, with DCC Sound Value, Southern #630 Features include: DCC sound-equipped dual-mode NMRA-compliant decoder precision motor operating headlight die-cast chassis completely hidden drive train d No modifications are needed to replace the factory speaker. After apurchase when and if you research this beforehand you will be jilted politely when they tell you they are misprints. No need to waste trees. A big THANK YOU to Athearn! I've tried programming using NMRA standards to my Bachmann 2-6-0 and they make no sense. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. I have been watching the Bachmann forums for some time and there are happy users. Decoder and Soundtraxx Sierra Sound. Bachmann has broken the sound barrier in N scale! Digital age. Not everyone has Internet access, or is computer savvy. Quickview. Locomotive had Erie Livery (mostly black and was repainted into Northern Pacific # 861, bell added to top of short hood and horns added to cab roof. Used but in Excellent condition. It's gradually come out on various forums that not all the CVs listed in the Sound Value documentation are actually installed on Sound Value decoders, so even the on line documentation that people are pointing to is not correct. Go back and look. In Stock. CV8 = 8 Resets The Decoder Back To Our Default. It's relatively easy to open if you need to service it yourself. I would like to know if there is no horn or bell in the B unit decoder, or if it is just turned down or off. If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away. Example, they are not enabled for the F7A or F7B, the Speed Table (CV 67 – CV 94) is enabled. Bachmann Sound Vaue decoders only share a couple of sound files for the bell horn and prime mover .Some have a dynamic brake sound with RPM change function that you can program. But even if I get a right answer, there's no good central point for reporting it. The point I was making above was that the Soundtraxx doc is incorrect or completely unclear in several cases. CV. This model was first reviewed by now-retired senior editor Jim Hediger in the December 1988 Model Railroader. Accordingly it is a misnomer to refer to them as Tsunami decoder. Search is a game of chance as much as skill anymore. £26.35. Bachmann has offered N&W Class Js before. Saves them a lot of paper and printing cost when the end user is required to download and print their own instruction manual. 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Visit the post for more. Bachmann Sound Value Decoders Wed, 2018-02-14 16:38 — Rich_S Hi Guys, I guess Bachmann saves a few dollars by not supplying this information in their locomotive packaging. In This Episode of How It's Done, we will go through the setup of the CV settings for your bell and horn on your Bachman DCC Sound Value Decoder Locomotive. Well, your original comment was that the Soundvalue did not support speed tables. While the web is a great resource, it's notoriuosly fickle. SKU 5240139 $23.95. Things like what CVs are supported, and what they control. The Tsunami Technical reference makes no reference whatsoever to the Sound Value series, which is different from the Tsunamis. For example the B unit only has the diesel rumble. Common blue is soldered to the pad located in the middle of the board, while the negative black wire is soldered to the bridge rectifier located at the bottom edge of the decoder. Not sound value and those were stripped down but I knew that from watching the Bachmann forums and reading the CV list at the SoundTraxx site. http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,28311.0.html. Click & Collect. Been watching the site for some years,. Where or how can I find a little more detailed info about the Sound Value decoders that come pre installed in Bachmann diesels. I may have made some sort of mistake in this, and my point is that there so far is no good central point for resolving these issues.